Sam Brigger

Also, we'll hear from Michael Pollan.

His new book, A World Appears, asks how technology is changing our consciousness.

Pollan also questions whether AI is capable of achieving that consciousness.

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Terry has our first interview.

Here she is.

We're listening to Terry's interview with Jad Abumrad.

His new podcast is about the Nigerian musician Fela Kuti.

It's called Fela Kuti, Fear No Man.

We'll hear more of their conversation after a break.

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I'm Sam Brigger.

Let's get back to Terry Gross' interview with Jad Abumrad, the creator and former host of the public radio program and podcast Radiolab, and the creator and host of the Peabody award-winning podcast series Dolly Parton's America.

His new podcast, Fela Kuti, Fear No Man, is about the father of Afrobeat, who used his music in the 70s as a weapon against Nigeria's brutal dictatorship.

We're listening to Terry's conversation with Michael Pollan.

His new book is A World Appears, A Journey Into Consciousness.

We'll hear more of their conversation after a break.

I'm Sam Brigger, and this is Fresh Air Weekend.