Sam Faddis

But as of now, they're going to dig in and they're going to take this thing into an unconventional

realm and they are going to prolong this conflict and are they going to be hammered mercilessly by the united states military without question i mean anybody who bet on the iranians to stand up to the u.s military uh was delusional they've been flattened and they're going to continue to get flattened but in in their world view they will just dig in and this will become

Low-cost drones and proxy forces and terrorist attacks abroad and attacks on desalinization plants and oil refineries and sort of let's all go to hell together kind of mindset.

that didn't work.

And so now they've gone, I mean, they, they just hit a desalinization plant in Bahrain.

They've hit a number of other targets.

So they, they, they gave that a whirl and it didn't work.

So now they're going to, they're going to intensify what they do against the Gulf states to the extent they can.

Right.

Well, I mean, to take off from the point in the article, look, we're in this war with the Israelis.

People have different ideas about the extent to which we are in the war because of the Israelis.

But however we got here,

It is very clear that when the president talks about this, he envisions a happy ending.

In other words, even when he says unconditional surrender, then the next thing he talks about is a free, democratic Iran working with us, prosperous, all of this.

That's how he sees it.

That in some sense, that's what we all on the American side want.

It is not clear to me that that is necessarily at all what the Israelis regard as success, meaning if Iran ends up as a much bigger, much more intense Libya, a totally broken, dysfunctional state where people are sold as slaves openly in markets, I'm not sure that is a bad outcome to the Israelis.

because what it means is in Iran, they probably can't threaten them directly, isn't building nuclear weapons, because it's impoverished and it's in chaos and it's in civil war.

From an Israeli national security perspective, the way they look at things, which of necessity is very hard-nosed, I think that very well could be a success in their view.

I don't think anybody on the American side really would view that