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Sam Fazeli

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Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Just contrast the approaches, perhaps, or maybe...

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Maybe it's too much for a podcast today, but I'd love to hear how you think everything fits together with regards to the current scene of protein design, AI-driven protein design.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

That was brilliant, Mark.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Thank you very much.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Let me pick through this a little bit.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

We have the cell, the protein target, and the data.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Right?

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

The cell disease cell.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Now, I've read Andrew White has made an estimate that you need 10 to the 38 flops to simulate a human cell.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Do you need, do you think, to simulate every single atom to be able to make an in silico cell useful?

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Or can you do it, or do you not need to go to that level of perfection?

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

That's great.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Thank you.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

I was hoping you would say that because I don't think we have enough energy to run something that requires 10 to the 38 flops of computation.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

But so, Mark, on that specific point, a lot of diseases cause not, I mean, it's

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

The perturbation may be on a single cell level, but there's a network effect that comes in, in terms of an organ basis or paracrine, a variety of ways that the biology is more complicated than a single cell level.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Where do you think we are?

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Actually, two questions here.

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

Where do you think we are in terms of those, what you just spoke about, in terms of having those models functionally useful already?

Vanguards of Healthcare by Bloomberg Intelligence
Xaira’s War on Trial-and-Error Drug Development

And where do you think we are in terms of trying to get the network