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Sam Fazeli

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Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

One of my favorite in the Henleus Fosun Pharma world is Serplulimab.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

And I learned a lot more about this at the latest WCLC conference, World Conference on Lung Cancer, than before.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

The first thing I learned also is that it is the highest ranked product for small cell lung cancer in Europe by ESMO.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

And this is completely home developed, if I'm not wrong.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

So I'm interested in the story of serplulimab.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

It is a PD-1 checkpoint inhibitor.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

And I've seen head-to-head data that looks really exciting and interesting.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

And of course, you've got this bridging study that you already spoke about in small cell lung cancer in the US.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

It's literally going up against the standard of care, which is dyscentric plus chemo.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

So I'm interested in the story of this molecule and what your ambitions for it are.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

When I searched around, I didn't find too many other indications being tested out.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

But just tell us a little bit about this and when we should expect data and what its history is, because it is one of those situations where a molecule was discovered that is better than what's, at least in this indication.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

Well, that's a good ambition to have, right?

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

I think maybe your other ambition should be to get a standing ovation when you present the data.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

That's one of the things that companies seem to obviously enjoy.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

Now, what's interesting, of course, is that PD-1 inhibitors, as you said, have not succeeded in small cell lung cancer.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

PD-L1, which is not usually the story.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

Usually PD-L1s tend to beat out the PD-L1 inhibitors.

Vanguards of Health Care by Bloomberg Intelligence
Fosun Pharma’s Drive Beyond China

And part of the argument is, although I've not really been able to 100% verify this, I don't think anybody can put their hand on their heart and say it's absolutely because the PD-1 inhibitor inhibits both PD-L1 and PD-L2.