Sam Harris

Right.

Such that you can actually...

come to a real understanding of what human life is good for.

I mean, you literally meet people who are agnostic as to whether or not it would be a bad thing if we all got destroyed and ground up in this new machinery and our descendants were robots wherein consciousness may or may not exist.

Yeah, I did hear this.

Yeah, actually, I did read that.

You basically don't need your people and you don't have to be responsible to their interest because you're pulling your wealth directly out of the ground.

And even in success, you wind up with authoritarian, you know, to one or another degree, places you wouldn't want to live.

I mean, again, even in the case of Saudi Arabia, you're talking about a, what has been, I mean, it's opening up a little now, but it's been a highly repressive society and it can be that way because it doesn't have to respond to.

to the needs of its people.

You've got a bunch of these guys like Elon running around wondering whether we're in a simulation and whether everyone else is just an NPC.

Yeah, I mean, a Chernobyl scale event might be the best case scenario at this point.

I mean, something that gets everyone's attention in a transnational way.

I mean, something that actually brings China and America to the table with, you know, ashen faces wondering how they can collaborate to move the final yards into the end zone safely.

Yeah.

You need something.

It's hard to imagine what is going to solve this coordination problem short of something that's terrifying.

Yeah.

There's not a regime of regulation, certainly on our side, that is going to force anyone to do anything.

We're the scary ones in this relationship.