Sam Harris

It was, it was not something I had to respond to, but yet I would then do a cycle of podcasts, responding to that thing that like taking my foot out of my mouth or taking someone else's foot out of my mouth.

And it became this, this self perpetuating, uh, cycle, which,

I mean, if you're having fun, great.

I mean, if it's generative of useful information and engagement professionally and psychologically, great.

And there was some of that on Twitter.

I mean, there were people who I've connected with because one of us DMed the other on Twitter and it was hard to see how that was going to happen otherwise.

But

It was largely just a machine for manufacturing unnecessary controversy.

Yeah, but it's not the way I wanted to use it.

It's not the way it promises itself as a- You wanted to have debate.

I wanted to actually communicate with people.

Yeah.

I wanted to hear from the person because-

Again, it's like being in Afghanistan, right?

It's like there are the potted cases where it's obviously good, right?

It's like in Afghanistan, the girl who's getting an education, that is just here.

That's why we're here.

That's obviously good.

I have those moments on Twitter where it's like, okay, I'm hearing from a smart person who's detected an error I made in my podcast or in a book, or they've just got some great idea about something that I should spend time on.

And I would never have heard from this person in any other format.