Sam Harris

That that was a forced choice.

You're eventually gonna get COVID and the question is, do you wanna be vaccinated when you do, right?

There was a period where that forced choice, where it was just obviously reasonable to get vaccinated, especially because there was every reason to expect that while it wasn't a perfectly sterilizing vaccine, it was going to knock down transmission a lot, and that matters.

And so it wasn't just a personal choice.

You were actually being a good citizen of

when you decided to run whatever risk you were gonna run to get vaccinated, because there are people in our society who actually can't get vaccinated.

I mean, I know people who can't take any vaccines.

They're so allergic to, I mean, they, in their own person, seem to justify all of the fears of the anti-vax cult.

I mean, it's like, they're the kind of person who Robert Kennedy Jr.

can point to and say, see, vaccines will fucking kill you, right?

Because of the experience, and we're still, I know people who have kids who fit that description, right?

So we should all feel a civic responsibility to be vaccinated against egregiously awful and transmissible diseases for which we have relatively safe vaccines.

to keep those sorts of people safe.

Yes.

And so again, all of this has begun to shift.

I don't think it has shifted as much as Brett Weinstein thinks it's shifted, but yes, there are safety concerns around the mRNA vaccines, especially for young men, right?

As far as I know, that's the purview of the

of actual heightened concern, but also,

There's now a lot of natural immunity out there.

Basically, everyone who was gonna get vaccinated has gotten vaccinated.