Sam Harris

And if you're interviewing Hitler, you don't have to say, listen, I just got to say before we start, I don't agree with the whole, you know, genocide thing.

And, you know, I just think you're killing, you know, killing mental patients and vans and all that.

That was all bad.

It's a bad look, Adolf.

So you just, it can go without saying that you don't agree with this person and you're not platforming them to signal boost their,

their views, you're just trying to, if they're sufficiently evil, you can go into it very much as an anthropologist would, you just wanna understand the nature of evil, right?

You just wanna understand this phenomenon, like how is this person who they are, right?

And that strikes me as a intellectually interesting and morally necessary thing to do, right?

So yes, I think you always interview Hitler,

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Well, when you know, once he's Hitler.

No, no, no.

If you're on the cusp of it where it's just, he's someone who's gaining power and you don't want to help facilitate that,

then there's a question of whether you can undermine him while pushing back against him in that interview.

So there are people I wouldn't talk to just because I don't want to give them oxygen.

And I don't think that in the context of my interviewing them,

I'm gonna be able to take the wind out of their sails at all, right?

So it's like, for whatever, either because an asymmetric advantage, because I just know that they can do something within the span of an hour that I can't correct for.

It's like they can light many small fires and it just takes too much time to put them out.

Yeah.