Sam Harris

The question is how you say it, how you say it.

Or even whether you say anything.

I mean, there are definitely moments to privilege civility or just to pick your battles.

I mean, sometimes it's just not worth it to get into it with somebody out in real life.

Yeah, but until it doesn't.

Because you can extend charity too far.

It can be absolutely obvious what someone's motives really are.

And they're dissembling about that.

And so then you're taking at face value their representations.

It begins to look like you're just being duped and you're not actually doing the work of...

of putting pressure on a bad actor, you know, so it's, it's, and again, the whole, the mental illness component here makes, makes it very difficult to think about what you should or shouldn't have said to Kanye.

Well, I think we have an uncanny valley problem with respect to this issue of whether or not to speak to bad people, right?

So if a person is sufficiently bad, right?

If they're all the way out of the valley, then you can talk to them and it's just, it's totally unproblematic.

to talk to them because you don't have to spend any time signaling to your audience that you don't agree with them.

And if you're interviewing Hitler, you don't have to say, listen, I just got to say before we start, I don't agree with the whole, you know, genocide thing.

And, you know, I just think you're killing, you know, killing mental patients and vans and all that.

That was all bad.

It's a bad look, Adolf.

So you just, it can go without saying that you don't agree with this person and you're not platforming them to signal boost their,