Sam Harris

Who does a whistleblower contact from Anthropic or OpenAI to say, we've seen some behavior that is worrisome?

Do they contact journalists, or are there...

Yeah, yeah.

Well, even when the principals say that the probability of extinction is 10 or 20%, nobody's even pretending that it's way safer than they thought.

I mean, it has been surprising to just see the progress and to be less surprised than you think you would be or should be with each increment.

I'm amazed that the Turing test proved not even to be a thing.

I remember what it was like to think, okay,

There will be this sort of liminal and seminal important moment when you can talk to your computer and it's every bit as articulate and error-free as a person.

And so the Turing test is passed.

We went from, okay, it's clearly not there yet to it's now functionally super, it's failing the Turing test because it passes so well.

I mean, like no human could give me all the causes of, you know, climate change this fast, you know, in a bulleted list in the presence of narrow super intelligence already.

Right, exactly.

So there is no such thing as a Turing test, really.

It's like that we went from it's failed to it's too good to be true.

Right.

And there are many things like that where it's just,

you memory hole what it was like to be in a world where none of this stuff existed and the pace of technological change and the concomitant cultural change is so fast and accelerating that the new normal, I mean, it touches everything.

I mean, it's like with our politics.

It's like,

And that's the only, that's what it is for something to matter, right?