Sam Harris

And I'm sure there's some distance between who he is in private and who he is in public, but it's not gonna be the kind of distance that's gonna blow my mind.

And I think, so I think the liability, so for instance, I think Joe Rogan was very wise not to have Trump on his podcast.

I think all he would have been doing is he would have put himself in a situation where he couldn't adequately contain the damage Trump was doing, and he was just gonna make Trump seem cool to a whole new, you know, potentially new cohort of his massive audience, right?

I mean, they would have had a lot of laughs.

Trump's funny.

The entertainment value of things is so influential

I mean, there was that one debate where Trump got a massive laugh on his line, only Rosie O'Donnell, right?

The truth is we're living in a political system where if you can get a big laugh during a political debate, you win.

It doesn't matter who you are.

That's the level of... It doesn't matter how uninformed you are.

It doesn't matter that half the debate was about what the hell we should do about...

you know, a threat of nuclear war or anything else.

We're monkeys, right?

And we like to laugh.

Yeah, well, I reached out to him privately when I saw that.

Joe knows I love him and consider him a friend, right?

So there's no, there's no issue there.

Um, he also knows I'll, I'll be happy to do his podcast, uh, when we get that together, you know, so there's no, I have got no policy of not talking to Joe or not doing his podcast.

Um,

I mean, I think we got a little sideways along these same lines where we've talked about Brett and Elon and other people.