Sam Harris

So it's not that he's uninformed, but he...

can always, when he feels that he's uninformed or when it turns out he was wrong about something, he can always pull the ripcord and say, I'm just a comic.

We were stoned.

It was fun.

Don't take medical advice from me.

I don't play a doctor on the internet, right?

I can't quite do that.

Right.

You can't quite do that.

We're in different lanes.

I'm not saying you and I are in exactly the same lane, but for much of Joe's audience, I'm just this establishment shill just banging on about the universities and medical journals.

And it's not true, but that would be the perception.

And as a counterpoint to a lot of what's being said on Joe's podcast or certainly Brett's podcast on these topics, I can see how they would form that opinion.

But-

In reality, if you listen to me long enough, you hear that I've said as much against the woke nonsense as anyone, even any lunatic on the right who can only keep that bright, shining object in view, right?

So there's nothing that Candace Owens has said about wokeness that I haven't said about wokeness insofar as she's speaking rationally about wokeness.

But

we have to be able to keep multiple things in view, right?

If you could only look at the problem of wokeness and you couldn't acknowledge the problem of Trump and Trumpism and QAnon and the explosion of irrationality that was happening on the right and bigotry that was happening on the right, you were just disregarding half of the landscape.

And many people took half of the problem