Sam Harris

Yeah.

But to have been against Prop 36 in that context, again, it looks like it's imagined to be compassion on the far left, right?

There's been over-prosecution of black and brown people in our state and in our country, or at least...

That is what is claimed.

And so let's just hire DAs that won't prosecute anyone.

Let's just open the jails and we'll reset society that way.

Again, it's by turn sadistic and masochistic, and it's not acknowledging the very real costs of

crime and dysfunction playing out in front of everyone's eyes in blue cities.

And it's a gift to the lunatics on the right, as you pointed out.

So, I mean, what we desperately want is to forget, we meaning, you know, every sane person I know,

is to forget about politics.

If we're talking about governance as much as we are, something's wrong with our governance.

We want someone like you to have a job that you can just do so that we don't have to think about that job.

And yet politics is just sucking everyone's bandwidth now because there is so much dysfunction and there's so much partisan topspin to be had as a result of that dysfunction.

I think just to clarify, I think what people are most revolted by is not the need for civic engagement, but just the hyper-partisanship of our era, which just distorts everything.

And it makes politics a religious preoccupation for people.

All right, so June 2nd is the primary.

And what's on the calendar between now and then as far as giving you more exposure?

Are there... A lot of interviews.

Are there debates?