Sam Harris

in his actual crimes, deserves to be prosecuted and all of that.

And I think we're probably going to differentiate the degrees of culpability that we perceive insofar as we've seen what has been released in this recent tranche.

Because I think there's a fair amount of confusion around just how implicated people are.

But obviously, the man himself was awful and he did awful things.

And there are people who enabled those things or participated in the abuse and trafficking of young girls.

we want nothing but justice for those people, et cetera.

And I also don't mean to make light of the people who are like me in these files in a way that is peripheral to one or another degree.

And it may be properly fucking up their lives and reputations because people are not disposed to differentiate the degrees of culpability, et cetera.

So I'm sure I know many, many people who are mentioned in these files because now I see how

how the network is kind of strung together based on these email chains.

And some of them might really be sweating it out for no real reason, except they have institutions that may want to fire them as a result of some weird implication that may be meaningless, et cetera.

So I don't mean to make light of any of that, but I'm going to make light of my own situation because it

I got a big laugh out of it last night.

Yeah.

Well, I guess, again, I don't consider myself a deep student of what has been released or the reporting that's been done on Epstein and his victims and the specifics of all his crimes.

I mean, this is kind of like a high-level reaction to what I've seen, which is typical of scandals like this, though, which is to say people don't tend to want to differentiate gradations of guilt.

Well, first, I think you... I forget the words you use.

I think you differentiated criminals from pigs, from jerks, from... Or people with poor judgment, right?

Yeah.

And I think there's all of that.