Sam Harris

Well, I'm sure everything's wrong with it given the people who are in charge, right?

I mean, given that we're living in Stephen Miller's world, at least on this front.

I mean, it's got to be unethical.

It's got to be callous.

It's got to be too blunt force in every application.

I'm sure there's nothing good about it.

But in the abstract, I think we could admit that we, one, want to know who's coming into the country, which is to say we want to secure a border.

And two, we want to admit the people into the country who we want in the country, right?

Who we think are going to add value on whatever level, whether they're high skilled or low skilled or refugees who we just have a compassionate policy around.

We obviously don't want jihadists and Islamists and lunatics of any other ideological flavor.

We don't want

I would say we don't want communists.

We don't want Nazis.

There's lots of people we don't want in this country, or we don't want more of, and we shouldn't be eager to import them intentionally or haphazardly.

So that requires that we figure out who people are and have some orderly process of letting them in, and that's all fine.

But again, we have the kinds of people who will separate families and put kids in cages running our immigration policy.

Is that happening?

I think that happened, yeah.

I don't know how many people bought it, but I think that is a thing, yeah.

Well, if I understood that, I would be, I think, the one person on earth who does.