Sam Harris

I don't want to awaken painful memories, but I just feel like I'm happy to talk about this topic in any way you want, but I just need to acknowledge that your son Danny was one of the most prominent people killed by al-Qaeda when the war on terror so-called became of importance.

salient to most people in America, certainly for the first time after 9-11.

So you've spent, you know, now a quarter of a century witnessing, you know, as I have, but from a far kind of deeper space, the kind of consistent misunderstanding around jihadism and Islamism that has

happened, especially on the left in our society.

To my eye, we have a kind of an anti-colonial oppressor, oppressed narrative that has captured the moral intuitions of the left such that it's very difficult to talk about some of the ideas within Islam that reliably beget the kind of violence we've seen.

And

And, you know, groups like the Muslim Brotherhood has managed to play havoc with this moral confusion.

They found legions of useful idiots, even on college campuses like your own.

I mean, I don't know if you noticed this, but the other day, the UAE announced that it would no longer pay for its students to study in the UK, at UK universities, for fear that they will be radicalized by the Muslim Brotherhood on UK campuses.

So, I mean, that's how far the rot has spread

We can take this from any side.

We can talk about 20-plus years ago, how you came to this, or your experience after.

I want to talk about your experience after October 7th.

Just, you know, please start wherever you want to start.

Well, at this time, you were living in Los Angeles, right?

You were not living in Israel in 2005.

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