Sam Harris

If you've got 15 minutes to make a decision and you either have an ape who doesn't have time to consult with other apes, or you have some AI system that you have put in place that you really think is

analogous to a chess engine that's just better at chess than people are.

Is there a path back to zero here?

I mean, has anyone articulated a plausible path whereby we would just recognize that the only way to win this game is not to play it at all?

Well, on that point, do you think that the current status quo of mutually assured destruction has kept us over the last 75 years from fighting the conventional version of World War III?

Well, I know we all await the wisdom of governments in figuring out how to mitigate this threat, but what is the role or opportunities for philanthropy here?

Because I know you're currently at Longview Philanthropy and leading their program on nuclear weapons and existential risk.

And Longview has been advising me and the Waking Up Foundation in how we give out money each year.

Philanthropically, what can private citizens do to help?

What happened there?

Why did MacArthur get out of the saving the future game?

What is it?

Can you estimate what the funding is?

Oh, my God.

That really is paltry, given what we're talking about.

Yeah.

Wow.

Is that all the organizations that are in the space?

I mean, something like the Plowshares Fund?

Are you including all of those?