Sam Hawley

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5,676 appearances 141 recordings 4 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 3d ago

Sam Hawley’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 141 in all, peaking in Aug 2026 with 31.

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ABC News Daily · Is 'nastiness' backfiring on Pauline Hanson? · 16 Sep 2026 podcast

Alright, so there was this stoush with Andrew Hasty, then these comments about Anthony Albanese's mother, and then of course there were more resurfaced comments from the JJ podcast, where Pauline Hansen said Australia's indigenous people were the most primitive race on earth. voice-verified

Now she then went ahead and reposted that clip on her ex account saying to her followers, you make up your own mind what you think of these comments. voice-verified

Well, Sean, let's then consider whether any of this is a turn off for voters or whether it actually helps Pauline Hansen. voice-verified

There is a saying, of course, isn't there, that there is no such thing as bad publicity and really Pauline Hansen is just soaking up so much oxygen at the moment, isn't she? voice-verified

Hm. voice-verified

There is an argument though, isn't there, Sean, that attacking her personally could be voice-verified

Counterproductive, for instance, calling her a racist, that that really annoys her supporters and in doing so is counterproductive politically. voice-verified

What do you make of that argument? voice-verified

Hmm. voice-verified

All right, well Sean, the independent Senator Lydia Thorpe. voice-verified

She says that Pauline Hansen is running circles around Labour and it needs to do something about it. voice-verified

What can it do, though, do you think, that it's not already trying to do? voice-verified

Mm-hmm all right. voice-verified

So what do you think? voice-verified

Do you think Pauline Hanson will need to rein things in a bit, or is this really gonna be a winning strategy for her? voice-verified

Controversy wins out. voice-verified

Sean Kelly is a columnist for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald and a former Labour Party adviser. voice-verified

This episode was produced by Ilaria Brofi and Louise Milan. voice-verified

Audio production by Sam Dunn. voice-verified

Our supervising producer is Sidney Peat. voice-verified

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