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Sam Jacobs

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
659 total appearances

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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

You compare that to what you're spending on sales and marketing.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

And obviously, again, this is not rocket science.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

And nevertheless, many people don't do these calculations.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

So let's say you're spending...

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

$8,000 on sales and marketing in January, and you get $8,000 back from customers on average in February, you've got a very good business there.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

Because you spent a dollar, you get a dollar back.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

Then everything that happens after that, their subsequent renewal periods, all of that is free cash flow that contributes to your operating expenses.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

So what would be a bad situation?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

A bad situation would be you spend $20,000 to acquire a customer that contributes $5,000 in gross margin contribution.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

then it's going to take you four of those periods to get paid back.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

And again, hopefully this isn't life-changing information, but why is it bad?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

Why is it bad to be paid back over a longer period of time?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

The first is it ties up your capital in that sales cycle.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

So it's bad for your balance sheet,

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

But it also requires a much higher predictability and point of view on what's going to happen in the future.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

So imagine that you have a three year payback period.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

What that means is you put a dollar in at the top of the machine in 2021 and you don't get that full dollar back until 2024.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

Well, has the world changed from 21 to 24?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

I would think we would all agree it's changed a lot.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Pavilion Breaks $10m Revenue using New Growth Playbook, CEO Sam Jacobs

So the other problem with long payback periods is it requires a point of view on the future in a world that is increasingly uncertain.