Sam Kamani

various different elements or even for Nexus.

Great.

Yeah, that's that's very true.

And it is it is harder for like, you know, larger established incumbents to move, you know, innovators dilemma.

Like, I'm sure you've read the same books.

And that happens in every industry.

It doesn't matter if it's this or healthcare or web two, web one, doesn't matter what industry it is.

And that's why there is a space for new startups.

And that's why I'm optimistic about always about new startups.

And there will always be new companies born throughout the ages.

The innovation flywheel.

Yes, yes, absolutely.

Talking about innovation, what other innovation you are seeing in the industry that you find really interesting or inspiring or something that we should pay attention to?

It could be outside of Nexus, it could be anything.

And talking about like projects, we have talked about Hyperliquid and Nexus and Ethereum and two or three others.

Are there any other protocols or elements or any other key projects that you would say are worth keeping an eye on?

Fantastic.

I will definitely have a look at them.

And also get a view of Penta and Dragonfly.

Like I connected with on telegram.