Sam McKee

For those two names now to come in thinking, like, you're going to get this team to win now, I think you've got to be leaning towards those kids, for me, is more important.

Or someone that's committed to, it's okay, we've got to develop these.

Yeah, I don't know.

What did you hear about the island?

Was it a fairly decent experience for some of the younger kids?

No, no, no.

The indication's there that they're trying to win now.

That's not the problem.

The problem is I don't see it like they see it.

Yes.

I'm okay with it, but I don't think it'll be a very... You don't think it'll work?

I don't think it'll work, and I don't think it's a smart hire for even Peter Laviolette.

So you think the Leafs are going to stink next year?

I'm not saying stink, Sammy, but I don't think that they can legitimately challenge for Stanley Cup.

If that's what we're all insinuating, that still is the goal for the Leafs.

I think there's a chance that they could be one of those teams that can just get in, and then where do you go after that?

Ottawa's still there.

Tell me what kind of summer they have, Sammy.

Tell me how the UFA.

I don't, Sammy.