Sam Sachdeva

Yeah, there'll be some who will be voluntarily reporting on this, and I think who are in fact already required to report on this as a result of their business in other countries. So if they're in Australia or the EU and the UK and they've got a certain revenue threshold or they hit whatever the qualifying criteria are, then they will have to report.

So for some businesses, it's not actually going to or shouldn't require that much more work. But it's just having that alignment and being able to say that, you know, yes, in New Zealand, we've got these same criteria or some form of regime, reporting regime in place. You're looking at some 2019 figures, 5% of all imports were linked to child or forced labour. And that's quite an astounding figure.

I think you're right. It is hard to get your head around that. I suppose if you're a consumer, particularly at the moment when everyone is finding it harder to make ends meet, you're probably more focused on the price of a product and maybe you don't think as much about why it is that the price is that low.

And some people won't have the luxury of thinking that closely and spending more money for something to give them peace of mind. But for people who can, I think, yeah, just thinking more consciously about this and being aware of those numbers that you've got a relatively high percentage of goods that are coming into the country that might have that sort of substandard labour practices involved is really eye-opening.