Sam Stein

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm not going to interrupt you.

I promise.

You know, it's getting like, well, it's well past the point of disturbing, but it's getting really like defeating more.

You feel defeated watching this stuff because this is a major U.S.

city that is under siege by its own government.

I mean, there's no other way to really look at it.

What they've done is they've sent thousands of ICE agents into a city that doesn't want them.

doesn't need them, isn't asking for them.

And it's just stirring shit up.

And it's so obvious what the goal is here is they're just trying to create chaos to justify more federal authorities going in there.

I mean, Trump this morning, as we are recording, this is talking about using the insurrection act, which basically would allow for the deployment of the military.

So I guess the question, Tim, I don't really understand is like, what is the end game for Trump here?

But what's the endgame of that?

I'm interrupting that.

I remain very skeptical.

Okay.

I'm putting aside the morality of it.

Let's just like talk about the politics of it.