Sam Tallent

Exactly.

And you can see the crowd lose interest in it.

You have the germ.

Yeah.

You have to water it.

Make sure it gets enough sunlight.

And then see which soils it grows better in.

Have you ever heard Tom Waits talk about the muse?

So he thinks the muse is like a real thing, like you're talking about.

It's like a vibe, for lack of a better term.

So there's all these stories about Tom Waits sitting in front of his piano for like 10 hours a day, just screaming, being like, all right, you bitch, I'm here.

I'm ready to do the work.

I'm in front of the piano.

Let's go.

Give me what I need.

I'm into the work right now, just like hammering on the piano and yelling at the muse, trying to like enchant it and bring it to him as he's like, just like literally making insane discordant noise.

And then out of nowhere, some chords fit together and then he has a song.

Yeah.

Yeah, but you can't write a book unless you're in front of the typewriter.

You can't write a song unless you're in front of the keyboard.