Sarah B. Rogers

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526 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 22 Jan

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And those prohibitions in the statute, I think, are much vaguer than American lawyers are accustomed to.
And one of our jurisprudential principles under the American First Amendment is if you're going to enact any regulation that comes close to touching speech,
It needs to be very clear what you are prohibiting because you have this chilling effect concept.
A vague prohibition will chill speech, especially when that prohibition is imposed on a large risk-averse corporation.
So you impose vague prohibitions on large risk-averse corporations, and that's how it becomes illegal to make jokes around the water cooler, for example.
You see the same effect here.
Digital Services Act also regulates other aspects of digital commerce and social media.
So it regulates things like transparency and competition.
And I think...
We have a lot of Europeans in the audience today, and I hope none of them will find it contentious if I suggest that in Europe there is more of a focus on technocratic regulation as an arbiter of what's acceptable than there might be in America where we have this tradition that really emphasizes rugged individualism and individual conscience.
I think that's basically it.
And look, when American companies operate abroad, they abide by the laws where they operate.
But at a certain point, so we recently issued some sanctions, which we'll get into.
And one of the individuals we sanctioned was a former EU official who threatened Elon Musk with enforcement action because X, within the United States, had said that it was going to host on a live Twitter space an interview with Donald Trump, our president.
So it wasn't that Donald Trump had said anything violative.
It wasn't there was a specific piece of content that the EU wanted to ban.
It was just that the act of an American business hosting an interview with an American president might offend EU preferences about speech, generate a regulatory threat.
And when you reach across borders and make a threat like that, that offends American interests and American values.
And so you can expect America to respond.
And I think, so I, my history is as an American lawyer in American courts, and we have, you know, we're a nation of 50 states, and each state has its own regulations.
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