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Sarah Gerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
201 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

I think within the field that's controversial, but I think it's closely related to empathy for sure.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So I think an important thing to caveat is that we use creative play on tablets as our kind of control or comparison case in this research.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

We're not villainizing tablets in any way in this particular scope.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

What we did is we were interested in whether there's a causal effect of doll play.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So when children are prompted to play with dolls and we give them some dolls to go home and play with for about a month,

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

do they then change their understanding about other people?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

And is that changed relative to children who were sent home with tablets?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

And so we wanted to know, do dolls improve children's understanding of other people's mental states?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

And that's what we found here was that

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

four to eight year old, both girls and boys, when they were sent home with a set of dolls and told, play with these a few times a week, however you want to play.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

Those children showed an increase in their understanding and kind of accuracy of understanding of other people's internal mental states relative to children who are playing tablet games.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So in this case, what we were using was a continuous measure of that theory of mind that we already talked about, where we basically give them kind of like prompts and have them guess what someone else thinks and how biased they are by what they think.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So it's hard to quantify in terms of how much did they understand, etc.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

But what we saw was statistically significant.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So we saw that children improved significantly.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

significantly when they played with dolls, but not when they played with tablets.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

But we also interestingly saw that there were individual differences within those children who brought those dolls home.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So children who had parent reported peer problems.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

So this is reporting about things like my child doesn't have many close friends.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Rock Aliens and Sun Microbes - March 25, 2026

My child prefers to play alone.