Sarah Gonzalez

It took 35 people to make like a men's button up dress shirt.

That's what I see.

Of course, there's like, you know, the do-gooder factories.

But for the most part, it doesn't matter how expensive the clothes is.

If it costs, if it's a t-shirt that costs $120 or a t-shirt that costs $20, the workers who worked on both of those shirts likely got 20 cents to work on it either way.

You know, it's like knowledge ruins everything.

I'm Sarah Gonzalez.

Today's show was edited by Marianne McCune and fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, who also helped with research.

It was produced by Willa Rubin with help from Emma Peasley and engineered by Robert Rodriguez.

Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.

Also, super, super extra special thanks to Sheng Liu, who really helped us understand why the garment industry exists in the U.S.

at all and what it looks like.

Jeff, what is this?

Is it a fake diamond or a real diamond?

Wait, this is like creme de la creme, perfect cut, perfect clarity.

Dude, it's so good.

No, Israel is still not letting cash into Gaza.

So Mohammed says they still have the same problem.

There is not enough cash.

The cash that's there is falling apart.