Sarah Gonzalez

That's after the break.

All right.

We wanted to know how common it is for a U.S.

president to make money like Trump has while they are the sitting president.

And we called up someone who would know.

Your name sounds so familiar, Fred.

Fred's wife, Linda Wertheimer, is considered one of the founding mothers of NPR, recently retired.

I mean, OK, like this in terms of scale, but like famously, infamously, Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden made money.

No.

Yeah, when you look at the relatives of presidents profiting or even benefiting, yeah, there are plenty examples of that in our history, Fred says.

But still, all those examples, very different in terms of the amount of money, even Hunter Biden.

Okay, we're going a little back.

But I can tell you— So conflict of interest, but also profit, right?

Couldn't have been that much.

So I guess you could make the argument that maybe certain companies were placing ads in that paper, in that newspaper to maybe try to curry favor with Warren G. Harding.

That could have been.

Sure.

Was that a concern that people were throwing around in the 1920s?

Tell us about that time, Fred.

No, I'm just kidding.