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Sarah Holland-Batt

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
252 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

And so, you know, it stretches, as I said, back to Plato, who, you know, Socrates makes this argument that, oh, once a carpenter can no longer do their work, well, you know, that should be the end of their medical treatment, that should be the end of their access to healthcare.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

they're essentially on the scrap heap.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

And then as you move through time, you know, there's a very kind of prominent Jacobin play, The Old Law, in which, you know, men and women are executed at 80, sorry, men are executed at 80, women at 60.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

And this is this kind of old, this play, The Old Law, which is by Thomas Middleton and a number of others, is sort of the progenitor of this kind of dystopian thinking that tracks all the way through

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

all the way through to the 21st century, essentially, writers repeating the same idea that, you know, well, because society doesn't value the old, we'll kill them off, you know, through euthanasia, through all sorts of different means in these dystopian novels.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

But the end result is the same, that writers are seeing in dystopia the aged actually just killed off altogether.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

Well, Brave New World is a world essentially of stasis where the objective is not to age, not to change, to be completely stable and constant and

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

to not have meaningful, deep, loving relationships.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

So everyone is a sort of stable, productive citizen until they sort of reach the age of 60, in which they get sent to hospitals for the dying, where they don't receive visitors very often because it's rare to have close relationships.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

Their death is treated with indifference and they're left with televisions blaring in front of them all day.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

It's a very similar kind of situation.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

to aged care facilities.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

In fact, it's a sort of direct metaphor.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

So while elements of Huxley's Brave New World are really kind of far out there and quite abstract from the lives that we lead today, when you look at the way in which Huxley writes about the elderly, you really see him questioning these same kinds of questions that I'm raising.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

You know, this idea of, well, what value do we place on old age and old people?

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

not much and that they're essentially segregated and sent away to die on their own.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

This is not too far from the reality of many elderly people in aged care.

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

So it's sort of prescient, I think, well, it's a prescient novel in loads of ways, but in particular, you know, Huxley really sees already the reality of aged care facilities for many people in this novel that

The Bookshelf
Pod Extra: Poetry and Music

that sort of predates the profit geared scenario that we see in the sector today.