Sarah Jaffe

Yeah.

And it's so funny, right?

Because the story that we were told about teachers unions, right?

I remember hearing that growing up.

You know, oh, they just protect all the bad teachers and the rubber room myth and all that stuff.

Right.

And like the charter schools are going to be better because they make it easier to fire the teachers.

You know, and again, I live in New Orleans, which like our school district has one directly operated public school and it opened last year.

But since Katrina, otherwise it's been 100 percent charters and like the results haven't gotten any better.

But what you have is just a lot of turnover.

Instead, I worked in a nonprofit very briefly with kids who are like nine, 10, 11 years old and like, oh, my God, they're exhausting.

They're amazing.

They're exhausting.

Teaching is hard.

It gets better, like most skills do, over time.

And so you don't want to just turn it over with the new smart kid from this week who probably has zero patience with the kids.

You actually get better over time.

over time.

And so protecting your ability to get better over time is really important.

But also, there's places where you're having conversations with other teachers.