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And also then noting what a great response the ad received, Hubbard tried yet another method, one that would eventually become known as casualty contact.

Hubbard would ask that ambitious auditors search the newspapers for people who have been victimised one way or the other by life.

That's a quote from a Scientology report that he said that.

None of this is particularly surprising.

But so is like going to knock on your doors to talk about Jesus or to like spread the word of... But I think the overt claim of like go and find someone that's like a true victim of this world is like a particular kind of awareness.

I do think this, and I think, you know, I don't want to even get into organised religion and the people that use it for their own exploits, right?

Like there's so much we could say.

But I do think there's a difference between like someone who goes and door knocks because they just believe, you know, they're a believer who wants to convince another believer and someone who like runs marketing campaigns on targeting vulnerable individuals.

Oh, totally.

It helped them and now they're ready to... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Absolutely agree.

And when the auditor had found a victim in the papers, they were recommended to call the person and offer themselves as a minister whose compassion was compelled by the newspaper story, thus turning the victim into a Scientology convert.

Is that what you're thinking of?

Yeah, guilt and shame.

Not only that, but something called ethics technology was introduced.

He needs another thing, right?

Ethics technology was the term that Scientologists used for cracking down on those who may potentially leave or harm, in other ways, the religion.

It was this framework on how to view the outside world and a set of protocols that could be enacted in times of strife.

The centre of this framework was to deem certain figures SPs, or suppressive persons.

I actually knew about that because I knew that's what they called Nicole Kidman.