Sarah Jossel

I am mortified that you haven't actually had a copy, so I'm going to send you a copy straight after this.

But yes, I've had a typical me day where I was so excited I went off to the bookshops.

I haven't been able to see it yet.

Do you know it's that Instagram versus reality moment where it all looks so glossy, but the book hasn't arrived in any of the bookshops.

So beauty is a business.

We talk a lot about the incredible work that the British Beauty Council do.

You know, they are campaigning at Number 10 all the time about whether it is looking at the cosmetic treatments world and how we can be far more careful with what's going on there.

It's the high street, you know, how we contribute to the high street.

There is just so much business in beauty.

And yet it is still massively looked at as just a silly little frivolous world by so many people, men and women.

And so that is something that I really wanted to kick the book off with.

with to just say yes I'm a beauty editor and it's this sort of phrase that I used to always say which was I'm a beauty editor but I did study politics at university like I always thought I really needed to say that and I was talking to another friend who said she used to say I'm a journalist but you know not a real one because it's beauty and it's so sad that we feel that that's obviously how we've always felt but I would say after 16 years I am now so proud.

No, that's exactly what I said.

I referenced a journalist called Hannah Betts who said she got given this, well, she got offered this beauty column and she said that her colleagues who are sports journalists, you know, wine journalists, car journalists, all was that career suicide.

Don't do it.

You will not be taken seriously anymore.

And she said...

you are literally writing about wine and cars and you're saying that beauty is nonsense.

You know, they all play its part.

Each and every one of us have such a different relationship with our reflections.