Sarah Koenig

I don't think Adnan is a psychopath.

I just don't.

I think he has empathy.

I think he has real feelings because I've heard and seen him demonstrate empathy and emotion towards me and towards other people.

He is able to imagine how someone else feels.

But on all the other options, it's a toss-up.

Could Adnan initially have been in some state of amnesia and denial and then supplanted that with actual lying?

It's possible.

Could he have had simmering feelings of anger and resentment that then boiled over in a not-quite-by-accident way?

It's possible.

Could he be truly innocent?

It's possible.

Ewing said he's often asked on the stand, how do you know this person isn't lying to you?

And his answer, he said, is always the same.

I don't know.

In the course of his career, he's been fooled.

A handful of people who are listening to this story have told me one thing they think makes Adnan look guilty is the way he talks about, or rather doesn't talk about, other people involved in the case, especially Jay.

That if he were really innocent, we would hear him being madder.

I know we've already talked about this.

Why doesn't he sound more mad?