Sarah Koenig

That's all he saw?

Justin and I weren't the only ones who had this reaction.

The city's surveyor, a guy named Philip Budemeyer, went out to the burial site to measure the distance from the road.

This was before they disinterred her.

Here's Budemeyer testifying at trial.

So here's a guy who's looking for the body, who knows where it's supposed to be, who can see that there are a bunch of people standing around it, and still he can't find it.

So does it seem reasonable that Mr. S., who apparently wasn't looking for anything except a secluded place to pee, would have discovered it just like that?

The other thing that's a little odd is this business of having to pee.

The spot where Mr. S stops is only a few miles from his house, and only a few more miles from his work.

Yet he can't wait.

Here's Detective Ritz questioning Mr. S again.

Says he ends up waiting until he gets to work.

Which, okay, maybe that makes sense.

You've had a shock.

But why would he walk so far in in the first place if he was just trying to have a quick pee?

And why was he studying the ground?

Ritz asks him about this.

On a freezing day back in February of this year, we went out to Leakin Park.

We wanted to know whether it was strange that he'd gone so far back into the woods.

Like, what did 127 feet from the road look like?