Sarah Longwell

And and he does that kind of for me, where I think that he is this idea of like, I'm going to go to Oklahoma and I'm going to talk to people there.

I think that's great, by the way.

And the thing is, is that while we tend to get in these Twitter arguments about, do you go on this podcast or this streamer?

He's like, oh, I'm going to actually go sit with people because that's actually the real thing.

The rest of this stuff over here is a sideshow to the real voters.

And so I'm because I'm obsessed with listening to voters.

I'm obsessed with candidates who care about engaging with voters.

This was like young Joe Biden with the arm around people and like being around Trump with his stupid rallies, but like creating good dance party vibes.

Like the Democrat who was going to win, who I do think is going to be somebody who manages to not tip over into saccharine or treacle, but does have a very clear sense of vision, hope, future, how we bring, come back together as a country.

I do think people are hungry for that.

I think he has it.

And so, and Ossoff has just been like,

I think messaging matters more now than ever.

And I think he is doing it.

And every time I see him give a speech, I kind of like do a lap in the room with my head.

Yes.

Yeah.

Thanks, Tommy.

Good to see you.

I'll put gas in your car next time.