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Sarah Longwell

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The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

That chase it. And so I think to JBL's point, so much of this second term should at least be among the journalism or pundit class should be able to disaggregate the real from the trolling. Now, to Tim's point, though, I think the idea that the trolling doesn't have real consequences is.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

because not everybody's able to disaggregate these things, or because sometimes things that read as funny, like, saying we're going to take over Canada is kind of funny to Americans because of, and maybe even to some Canadians, just because of the unique relationship, the closeness, the cultural closeness, but also, like, no one really thinks this is going to happen, but does that change society?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

because not everybody's able to disaggregate these things, or because sometimes things that read as funny, like, saying we're going to take over Canada is kind of funny to Americans because of, and maybe even to some Canadians, just because of the unique relationship, the closeness, the cultural closeness, but also, like, no one really thinks this is going to happen, but does that change society?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

because not everybody's able to disaggregate these things, or because sometimes things that read as funny, like, saying we're going to take over Canada is kind of funny to Americans because of, and maybe even to some Canadians, just because of the unique relationship, the closeness, the cultural closeness, but also, like, no one really thinks this is going to happen, but does that change society?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Certain geopolitical calculus does it. Trump wants people to be like, he's unpredictable. He's a madman. And he wants to do it to places like Greenland and Canada, where he feels like everybody will kind of be cool about it, as opposed to Iran and Egypt and places where it can set off real potential issues. And so- Cuba, even.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Certain geopolitical calculus does it. Trump wants people to be like, he's unpredictable. He's a madman. And he wants to do it to places like Greenland and Canada, where he feels like everybody will kind of be cool about it, as opposed to Iran and Egypt and places where it can set off real potential issues. And so- Cuba, even.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Certain geopolitical calculus does it. Trump wants people to be like, he's unpredictable. He's a madman. And he wants to do it to places like Greenland and Canada, where he feels like everybody will kind of be cool about it, as opposed to Iran and Egypt and places where it can set off real potential issues. And so- Cuba, even.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And the only way to try to dig in on that is to not chase too much of the shiny stuff that is meant to be part of the zone flooding shit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And the only way to try to dig in on that is to not chase too much of the shiny stuff that is meant to be part of the zone flooding shit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And the only way to try to dig in on that is to not chase too much of the shiny stuff that is meant to be part of the zone flooding shit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

My only thought is that, and this is where JVL and I tend to depart a little bit, is that, you know, even if he doesn't, let's say, do the thing, And I'm not eager, in many cases, for him to do the thing. I understand JVL's point that we can't keep sort of protecting people from the consequences of their actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

My only thought is that, and this is where JVL and I tend to depart a little bit, is that, you know, even if he doesn't, let's say, do the thing, And I'm not eager, in many cases, for him to do the thing. I understand JVL's point that we can't keep sort of protecting people from the consequences of their actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

My only thought is that, and this is where JVL and I tend to depart a little bit, is that, you know, even if he doesn't, let's say, do the thing, And I'm not eager, in many cases, for him to do the thing. I understand JVL's point that we can't keep sort of protecting people from the consequences of their actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

JVL and I talk about this in The Secret Pot all the time and other places about how there's sort of... I keep drawing lines between, okay, where are the consequences just enough that people have, like, touched the stove and they have to experience sort of what they have wrought with their vote versus...

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

JVL and I talk about this in The Secret Pot all the time and other places about how there's sort of... I keep drawing lines between, okay, where are the consequences just enough that people have, like, touched the stove and they have to experience sort of what they have wrought with their vote versus...

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

JVL and I talk about this in The Secret Pot all the time and other places about how there's sort of... I keep drawing lines between, okay, where are the consequences just enough that people have, like, touched the stove and they have to experience sort of what they have wrought with their vote versus...

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

What is going to have deleterious consequences for so many people that we should try to fight it? And I think that is something that we should endeavor to sort of sort through over the next four years. That's my main takeaway on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

What is going to have deleterious consequences for so many people that we should try to fight it? And I think that is something that we should endeavor to sort of sort through over the next four years. That's my main takeaway on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

What is going to have deleterious consequences for so many people that we should try to fight it? And I think that is something that we should endeavor to sort of sort through over the next four years. That's my main takeaway on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Oh, but actually, sorry. And I'll just say one other thing, though, that's bad about it, though, is it does create an appetite for people. Just because he doesn't do the mass deportations but talks about it forever... It doesn't mean that it doesn't have consequences, right?