Sarah Longwell

And then he went to Hungary and campaigned with Orban and Orban gets crushed.

And then he goes to Islamabad, Pakistan to negotiate.

And we find ourselves back in a war.

Like this is not a talented guy.

And so

But the Catholic piece, you know, J.D.

Vance has a book out right now, his second book, Following Hillbilly Elegy, and it's all about his conversion to Catholicism.

I don't know if I could have imagined a series of events lining up so clearly to ensure that J.D.

Vance doesn't have a political future, to have an American pope

actively dislike J.D.

Vance, number one.

Number two, J.D.

Vance to run as an anti-war president while he's got to now carry around Trump's foreign adventurism, stupid Middle East war.

And also just getting into a place where voters just don't like him.

People have the stink of a loser.

all over him by the time he tries to run in 2028.

What is your assessment of the political prospects of one J.D.

Vance?

Yeah, I mean, I didn't talk about it with you.

JVL and I did talk about it, I think, on Secret.