Sarah McCammon

And we're back. Now, Jimena, we've talked a lot about deportation, but it's worth noting that there are some kinds of immigration that Trump does support.

And we're back. Now, Jimena, we've talked a lot about deportation, but it's worth noting that there are some kinds of immigration that Trump does support.

And we're back. Now, Jimena, we've talked a lot about deportation, but it's worth noting that there are some kinds of immigration that Trump does support.

And Mara, I mean, this isn't totally a new idea, right? But it kind of aligns with Trump's transactional view of how politics are supposed to work.

And Mara, I mean, this isn't totally a new idea, right? But it kind of aligns with Trump's transactional view of how politics are supposed to work.

And Mara, I mean, this isn't totally a new idea, right? But it kind of aligns with Trump's transactional view of how politics are supposed to work.

You know, there's been an appetite going back many years now for some kind of immigration reform in Congress. There have been many efforts toward that end. A deal was in place when President Joe Biden was in office, which Trump essentially torpedoed from afar.

You know, there's been an appetite going back many years now for some kind of immigration reform in Congress. There have been many efforts toward that end. A deal was in place when President Joe Biden was in office, which Trump essentially torpedoed from afar.

You know, there's been an appetite going back many years now for some kind of immigration reform in Congress. There have been many efforts toward that end. A deal was in place when President Joe Biden was in office, which Trump essentially torpedoed from afar.

Do either of you get the sense that any kind of major legislative reform is possible now or is immigration policy just going to be directed through executive action?

Do either of you get the sense that any kind of major legislative reform is possible now or is immigration policy just going to be directed through executive action?

Do either of you get the sense that any kind of major legislative reform is possible now or is immigration policy just going to be directed through executive action?

Jimena, you've been watching this all unfold. You've been watching Trump begin to implement some of his immigration policy in the first several weeks of his administration. What are you going to have your eyes on in the coming weeks and months?

Jimena, you've been watching this all unfold. You've been watching Trump begin to implement some of his immigration policy in the first several weeks of his administration. What are you going to have your eyes on in the coming weeks and months?

Jimena, you've been watching this all unfold. You've been watching Trump begin to implement some of his immigration policy in the first several weeks of his administration. What are you going to have your eyes on in the coming weeks and months?

So that's kind of where they're at. Just one more thing I want to mention before we go. Ximena, you mentioned the word fear a couple of times. And that made me think about President Trump's speech to Congress. He said, they heard my words and they chose not to come. You know, we've talked a lot about enforcement, but it seems that part of the strategy is fear, right? It's just simply to protest.

So that's kind of where they're at. Just one more thing I want to mention before we go. Ximena, you mentioned the word fear a couple of times. And that made me think about President Trump's speech to Congress. He said, they heard my words and they chose not to come. You know, we've talked a lot about enforcement, but it seems that part of the strategy is fear, right? It's just simply to protest.

So that's kind of where they're at. Just one more thing I want to mention before we go. Ximena, you mentioned the word fear a couple of times. And that made me think about President Trump's speech to Congress. He said, they heard my words and they chose not to come. You know, we've talked a lot about enforcement, but it seems that part of the strategy is fear, right? It's just simply to protest.

tell people who might otherwise come to this country don't.

tell people who might otherwise come to this country don't.