Sarah Paine

Do you suppose the Ottomans might think something was up?

Yeah.

And when you get up there on the Dardanelles, all the high point, it's a very steep place.

So the Ottomans are all busy sorting that all out, getting troops in place.

So two months later,

When the British, New Zealand, Australian, and French troops all land on a given day, the Ottoms are there with a welcome party, essentially.

And that invasion stalemates in three days.

But they keep at it for eight months, taking 190,000 casualties, 55,000 of whom are dead men.

Totally insane.

uh miserably executed and it comes with collateral damage as the british are trying to run the dardanelles with their navy this is when the ottomans are terrified of their christian subjects armenians and they're starting to round them up they're pulling them out of the army and then days before the landing the the turkish massacre of the armenians begin and between 1915 and 1923 1.5 million armenians are killed that's a lot of collateral damage all right

The Normandy landings are a completely different event in World War II.

This is another contested landing of trying to get armies in.

First of all, the buildup of war material goes on for years to get all the landing vessels in, the equipment, the forces, all ready to go in Britain.

And then the...

A disinformation campaign kept the Germans completely disinformed.

They were expecting the landing to be at the Pas de Calais, which is the shortest place, and it's way off in Normandy.

That worked.

So everybody lands on a day, and they're up and over and into places inland.

Another lesson learned.

The Royal Navy did not think that convoy duty was the manly thing to do.