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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

They'd been colonized, didn't want to hear anything about them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

But it seemed as if the Soviets or the Chinese perhaps offered a better model, the communists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And many thought that the Chinese with Mao offered the better model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Why?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Because the decolonizing parts of the world were also agricultural and underdeveloped, unlike Russia, which had quite a military, excuse me, an industrial base.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And so they thought Mao was the more relevant guy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

All right, here's Mao in his iconic moment.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

He's proclaiming the victory of the communists in the Chinese Civil War.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

China had been a broken state basically since 1911 when the last dynasty had fallen and the country had broken out into a multilateral civil war that he eventually wins.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

I'm going to be talking tonight about Mao's theories from the 1920s and 30s when he had the time to write, but there's a lot more to Mao than just that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

He had quite a track record.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Once he won the Civil War, he imposed a social revolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

What's that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

It's more than a political revolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

You're not just replacing the government.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

You're going to wipe out entire social classes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And I don't mean then, hey, here's your one-way ticket out of here kind of way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

No, no.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

A social revolution is here's a mass grave, dig it, and then you're in it kind of way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

So if you look at these statistics of Chinese deaths in many of their wars, and this is from much of the Maoist period, I think it's 45 to 75, what you'll notice, the figures in white, I believe, are civilian deaths, not military deaths, and it gets really quite ugly.