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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Mao also offered minorities the previously unofferable, which was self-determination.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And what the minority people didn't get is that a promise made in a really desperate civil war with a regional war overlaying it, once you win those things and you can turn your guns on those trying to secede, that promise may be unenforceable.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

You can ask the Tibetans and Uyghurs how it all worked out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

All right, so Mao's strategy, he had a strategy of disintegrating the enemy army, and let me tell you how that one worked.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

In every county, you select a large number of workers and peasant comrades, people below the radar, and then you insinuate them into the enemy army to become soldiers, porters, cooks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

You could lose women to do this as well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Talk about people who are below the radar.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And you're creating a nucleus of a communist party to erode them from within.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And eventually it'll have a shattering effect.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And he said also part of this disintegrating the enemy has to do with leniency.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Sun Tzu advocates never put your enemy on death ground.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Death ground means that you just have no, that you're a dead person if you don't fight.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

So your only hope is to fight.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And if you put someone on death ground, they tend to fight with incredible willpower.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And Mao is don't do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

So what he did when you capture people, propagandize a little, recruit the willing, but release the unwilling so that the comparison of communist leniency and nationalist brutality becomes absolutely stark in this otherwise pitiless war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Okay, that's the Civil War.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Now we're gonna go to the second problem, which was Japan, the regional war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Mao made a really thoughtful assessment of what were the key characteristics of China that would determine what kind of military strategy he would use.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And this is his assessment.