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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

They'll win the war because they'll annihilate us.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And of course, this is what General Westmoreland was trying to do in the Vietnam War, is getting the North Vietnamese to concentrate so he could blow them off the map.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And of course, they'd read their Mao and didn't do that nonsense.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

So Mao was saying you only fight when you're sure of victory.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And also...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

In order to get to phase three, you need a big friend.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Why?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Because phase three is conventional warfare, which requires infinite supplies of conventional armaments that requires an industrial base to produce it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And somewhere like China lacks this industrial base.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And so good old Soviet Union played this role the world over.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And so this is the secret sauce of people's war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

If you want to get to phase three, you need a big buddy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And that's where the Soviet Union came in.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And so this is why Mao determines that Yan'an is going to be his terminal point of retreat.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

He said, I'm finding my way through to the Soviet Union.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

No kidding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

You've got to have the conventional arms to fight this stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

What's interesting about Mao's description of people's war is it actually applied not so much to the war with Japan, which he claimed it applied to, but rather to the civil war with the nationalists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

And here is the key point.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 3: How Mao Conquered China

Mao didn't actually fight the regional war against Japan.