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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

Okay, great.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

So I guess the idea of secrecy and surprise, normally you apply that to your enemies, not your sister service.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

But that's how it works in this setup.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

Now, the army does come around to the Navy plan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

Why?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

Because they get walloped by the Russians on the Mongolian border at the Battle of Nomadhan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

The Russians just decimate them in 1939.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

So now,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

The army says, OK, OK, maybe that southern advance thing wasn't such a bad idea.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

And so the Navy thinks this is great and they do their southern advance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

They go zooming down.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

The Japanese mind over matter stuff seems to be going really well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

Because in 1942, the Army takes more land or more dispersed theater than any country on the planet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

The Navy hasn't lost a single ship.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

I mean, it's looking really good.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

Except there are a few little details here that are a problem.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

What the Navy hadn't told the Army is that actually they weren't ready for this whole thing, that they needed this outer perimeter reinforced by airfields in order to make the thing work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

And that wasn't complete.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

And the Army learned about this on August 17th, 1942, because one of these airfields was being built in this tropical nightmare called Guadalcanal that

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 2: Why Japan Lost (Lecture & Interview)

the United States knew about, even though the Army didn't.