Sarah Paine

is a, what's the word?

It's a testament to having a generous peace.

So the peace after that war was not to get even, which is what had been the peace in World War I. It was the Germans had done all this terrible stuff.

We're going to make them pay all kinds of money and we're going to tell them it was all their fault and blah, blah, blah.

That doesn't work well.

But rather the peace, that was of course what the Russians did to East Germany, but for

Well, West Germany is how you reintegrate them back into Europe and get them back on in and the Japanese as well.

And also a serendipitous fact of the Korean War, the Japanese economy was a total mess at the end of this war.

And the United States, of course, is overtaxed because there's Europe to rebuild and there isn't enough money to do everything.

But when the Korean War hits, which is immediately in 1950, tons of the supplies were bought in Japan.

And that's how the Japanese economy initially is restored is through the Korean War and then the Vietnam War.

Because it's the local place to buy or more local in the United States to buy a lot of supplies.

So that's another piece of...

why things work out.

And then there's also the Germans and Japanese who live through, you were asking about, oh, what do conscripts think?

There are two brilliant generations in Japan's modern history.

And one's the Meiji generation and the other's the post-World War II generation.

that did this incredible makeover.

And I think of all these wonderful, high-quality products they built.

Like, I love my Toyota.