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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

was what was called the Northern Tier Strategy, as seen in the Baghdad Pact, where you get Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan to form this thing, and it's to wall off the Soviet Union from the oil fields of the Middle East.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And the other thing you should look at this map before it goes away, look where Pakistan's located, where you think it is,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

and then go to the east, and that's East Pakistan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

In the 1971 war, there's going to be a civil war, and Pakistan's going to lose East Pakistan, which is Bangladesh today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So just keep that in mind.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So as part of the sweetener for Pakistan to join the Baghdad Pact, the United States allied with Pakistan and gave them a big military aid treaty.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And here's Nehru, the prime minister of India, and he is horrified.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

A military pact between Pakistan and the United States changes the whole balance of power in this part of the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Especially the United States must realize that the reaction of India is going to be, you're arming the Pakistanis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Whom do you think they're going to shoot?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

It'll be us.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And the Indians were just appalled that we did this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And afterwards, Eisenhower admitted it was perhaps the worst kind of plan and decision we could ever have made.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

It was a terrible error, but now we're stuck with it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Because what the United States is slowly discovering is that if you arm either India or Pakistan in this period, it's going to aim it at the other one.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And so that pact poisoned U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

relations with India for the duration of the Cold War and set up things in ways the United States ultimately wasn't happy with.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Okay, those are two pivotal decisions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Now for a pivotal situation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

It's really the devolving situation between Russia and China.