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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But actually, he felt much more in common with Russia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Why?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Because he favored Fabian socialist economic values.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

policies that were much more akin to what's going on in Russia than it was in the United States.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Moreover, the United States was segregated, which appalled Nehru.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

In addition, the United States was cozying up to all the colonial powers, so Nehru thought the Russians were the better bet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

While all this is going on, the Indians were non-aligned and they treated the Chinese really generously.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And I've got a whole list of generosity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So India immediately recognizes China in 1950.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Countries like the United States didn't forever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And when the San Francisco Treaty, I think it's signed in 1951 in the United States, ending the war with Japan,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

India refuses to sign because China and Russia aren't there to sign as well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then to help China break out of its diplomatic isolation at the end of the Korean War, India signs a friendship treaty with China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And as part of that friendship treaty, it recognizes Chinese sovereignty over Tibet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Under international law, contrary to what Vladimir Putin is doing lately, under international law, if you recognize someone's sovereignty over territory, that is permanent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

You cannot back out of it legally under international law.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So the Chinese promise, I don't know, there's something like peaceful coexistence or whatever, they're promising the Indians, but that has no permanence under international law, whereas this thing does.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then from 1960 on, the Indians are voting to seat the People's Republic of China, not Taiwan, on the UN.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Meanwhile, in the background, all this road building is going on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Those roads are being built between 1950 and 1957.