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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So there's no meeting of minds on all of this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And so if you look at the alignments of primary adversaries, India and Pakistan, most of the time, are primary adversaries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

India is always Pakistan's primary enemy, but you could argue that with the 62 War, is it Pakistan or is it China who's the primary adversary of India?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then when you get to the 1971 War, which I'll discuss a little more in a second,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

where Bangladesh is broken off and then Pakistan has less than half the population, then you could argue that for India, China is the primary adversary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then if you look at that reshuffling, if you also look at the 1969 war that reshuffles the nuclear powers, so formally, Russia and China had shared the United States as their primary enemy, but after the 69 war, they're each other's primary enemy, and this gives the United States a swing position of team up with A or team up with B. And the United States teamed up with China

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

to overextend Russia and the Cold War because it always felt that the Soviets were the bigger threat in those days.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So anyway, as you're looking at alignments, you can apply this kind of framework to any country on the planet to try to figure out what's going on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And think about how alliances work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

If I look at the World War II allies, probably one of the most effective alliances in world history, if you think about what people ultimately want, the British want an empire in which the sun never sets, the United States wants to decolonize everybody, and Joe Stalin wants a communist wonderland.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Those are mutually exclusive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But to get there, you have to go through the common way station of getting rid of Hitler.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So the common existential threat can be a superglue of the most unlikely partners.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But let's look at the axis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

What they want at the end of the war are spheres of influence in different parts of the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So for Italy, it's empire in the Mediterranean, Japan in the Pacific, and then Hitler, it's all over Eurasia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

That's not mutually exclusive, but if you look who the primary enemy who stands in the way of those plans, it's Britain for Italy, it's Russia for the Germans, and for the Japanese, it's first China and then the United States.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

None of it aligns, so they fight parallel wars and allow the allies to take them out in detail.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So when you're thinking about alliances in the world today, when you're wondering what's going on with Iran or whatever, figure out who's their real primary enemy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Get it straight.