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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Total mess.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Meanwhile,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But for Pakistan, as all this is going on, the Shah of Iran falls in, I think it's like February 1979, and then the Russians invade Afghanistan in December 1979, and suddenly Pakistan is totally essential once again.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And the Pakistanis are really getting sick of being kicked around.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So outgoing President Jimmy Carter offers them, I don't know, $400 million or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

This is Zia here going peanuts to the peanut farmer.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The incoming Reagan administration then ups it to $3.2 billion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And that money gets funneled through the Inter-Service Intelligence Directorate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

It's like the, I don't know, the CIA plus plus plus in Pakistan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And when you put that kind of money into that kind of bureaucracy, you're going to make them incredibly powerful.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then they're the ones who decide how they're going to allocate money to insurgents in Afghanistan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And I got it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

There weren't any great choices, but they're arming some really anti-Western folks in there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Probably some guy named Osama, last name Bin Laden.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But anyway.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Anyway, I'm not sure of the details on that one, but it is going to have 9-11 follow-on effects.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And also, the Pakistani, the ISI is also taking some of that money and putting it into Kashmir, which is going to have real problems for India later on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So there are real ramifications for all of this, of needing Pakistan, but actually what is happening anyway.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then throughout, the Pakistanis are getting closer and closer to building the bomb.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So when the Russians go piling into Afghanistan, here's Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter's national security advisor, telling him, our security policy cannot be dictated by our nonproliferation policy.