Sarah Paine

But what we did do for both Germany, West Germany and Japan, is we did our best to set up democratic institutions that within a cycle or two, they're making their decisions whom they're electing.

We are not choosing their leaders.

And it was a very generous piece.

It was realizing in World War I, ostracizing Germans, ostracizing Russians.

You need to bring them back into the family of nations because they're on the planet.

They're not leaving the planet.

And the generous peace with Germany, look at them.

They're the most wonderful allies, as are the Japanese.

They're terrific.

I don't think it's that they did exactly what anyone wanted.

What the communists have...

is a really powerful doctrine for how you go from nothing to something in a failing state, how you start out with a bunch of people on some campus.

Mao literally starts out as a junior librarian in Beijing University.

So I don't know, he's there with the librarians, I don't know the ladies, who knows what it is.

It's probably guys in those days.

And then he's turning these people into cadres and eventually to guerrillas and eventually conventional army.

But they have a really good program that works the world over.

And it's very effective for taking power within a broken state.

It's lousy at producing prosperity thereafter.

And you'll get the Communist Party today.