Sarah Paine

He not only wants to topple the Ukrainian government, but he wants to eliminate Ukrainian culture.

If you look up genocide in the dictionary, genocide can mean kill everybody, but it can also mean destroy their culture.

That also applies to genocide.

Putin has a very unlimited objective.

Kyiv, on the other hand, does not have an unlimited objective.

As much as they'd like Putin to go, they just

They want Russia to get out of Ukraine, right?

Just get out of Ukrainian territory, stay in Russia.

That's their objective.

So the Ukrainians have a limited objective.

Putin has an unlimited objective.

No, it doesn't.

It doesn't, although the effect on Russia is to overthrow the government.

In fact, it winds up overthrowing one government after another.

I think as that war goes on and as you lose a lot of people, then the objectives become more unlimited, whereas originally it was just get back into German territory after Wallace.

No, we want to overthrow your government for doing this.

Payne.

Well, it's interesting.

When I first started out, I just wanted my books to be read by what the content of the book was.

I didn't want it to be read whether I was male or female.